"Whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith." - Mark 11:23


Jesus didn't say, "Whosoever shall speak to God about this mountain." He said we should speak directly to the mountain the desired end result.

From a worldly point of view, that sounds foolish. But 1 Corinthians 1:27 explains that God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise. It's always going to sound foolish to the world when a Christian talks as if what God has promised is reality, especially when those promises seem to contradict the natural evidence around us. But if you want to keep the enemy defeated, that's the kind of talking you'd better be doing.

The Bible says God Himself talks that way! In Romans 4:17, it says, "[He] calleth those things which be not as though they were." God doesn't wait for circumstances to line up before He speaks. He causes them to line up because He speaks. You can do the same thing if you'll make your words agree with His and speak them out of your mouth by faith.

"But what if nothing happens right away?" you may ask. "What if the circumstances don't immediately change?" When Jesus spoke to the fig tree in Mark 11:14, He didn't go back and check to see if anything had happened to it. No, once He had spoken it, He considered it done.

Follow His example. Let your faith speak. Agree with God's Word!


Scripture Study: Mark 11:12-23 

Ok, LITERALLY, none of that made any sense to me.

Jesus didn't say, "Whosoever shall speak to God about this mountain." He said we should speak directly to the mountain the desired end result.

Is this meant to be taken literally, as in speaking to inanimate objects?

From a worldly point of view, that sounds foolish. But 1 Corinthians 1:27 explains that God has chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise. It's always going to sound foolish to the world when a Christian talks as if what God has promised is reality, especially when those promises seem to contradict the natural evidence around us. But if you want to keep the enemy defeated, that's the kind of talking you'd better be doing.

So if God chooses the foolish things to confound the wise, then this guy goes on to say that to "keep the enemy defeated" you have to speak in words that sound foolish...does this mean that Christians are a) not wise and b) are to sound stupid intentionally because non-Christians are the enemy?

The Bible says God Himself talks that way! In Romans 4:17, it says, "[He] calleth those things which be not as though they were." God doesn't wait for circumstances to line up before He speaks. He causes them to line up because He speaks. You can do the same thing if you'll make your words agree with His and speak them out of your mouth by faith.


So, if your words agree with the Bible then you can command things into happening just by saying them aloud? Why doesn't this happen more often then?

"But what if nothing happens right away?" you may ask. "What if the circumstances don't immediately change?" When Jesus spoke to the fig tree in Mark 11:14, He didn't go back and check to see if anything had happened to it. No, once He had spoken it, He considered it done.


Again, is this advocating that Christians should speak to inanimate objects because that's how God speaks?

Where on Earth do you find these people? 

OK, wait. I think I get it now. Take out the weird stuff about talking to mountains and trees, and the overall point is that Christians can make things happen by speaking them because God makes things happen by speaking it. So, Christians shouldn't go to God to "move a mountain," they should move the mountain themselves by making it so.

I guess we're back to "The Secret" thing? I didn't read that thread. Maybe I should. 

i was going to respond to you snap...but now i see you weren't being sincere...so i'll forego my response 

I'm sincere....please explain.

Does speaking like God advocate speaking with inanimate objects such as trees? 

God doesn't wait for circumstances to line up before He speaks. He causes them to line up because He speaks.

this is so true! thank you for the reminder, johnlynch. 

O.k. ............. here I go.



The bible boiled down into one sentence. Love me and worship me, or go to hell. 

The bible boiled down into one sentence. Love me and worship me, or go to hell.


If I were to stay on your line of thinking, and had to sum it up in one simple sentence it would be the other way around......

Accept My love for you, or go to hell........ 

oh, and i do talk to plants. makes them grow. our tress out here have all been talked to at one time or another.

i also talk to butterflies, dragonflies, birds and squirrels (well, not too nice to the squirrels).

i also walk around our property and pray for protection and blessings of all on it and all who come on the property. 

I've been known to talk to pretty much anything. :p 

Accept My love for you, or go to hell........



LOL!!!!! Yeah, that's muuuuuuuuuch better!


I know you've been a kind, thoughtful, loving parent etc. etc. etc. , but you didn't "accept" me so go to an eternity of torment. Yeah.......... that's super loving. 

i also talk to butterflies, dragonflies, birds and squirrels (well, not too nice to the squirrels).


See but those aren't inanimate objects.

There's a difference in talking to my dog Max than talking to my desk........

I've been known to talk to pretty much anything. :p


That's ok, my sister swears she can command the direction of a bowling ball by using very humorous hand jestures and yelling as it travels toward the pins! LOL! 

LOL!!!!! Yeah, that's muuuuuuuuuch better!


I know you've been a kind, thoughtful, loving parent etc. etc. etc. , but you didn't "accept" me so go to an eternity of torment. Yeah.......... that's super loving.


I didn't say it was good......but it is what it is...... 

Accept My love for you, or go to hell........

Sounds like an abusive relationshsip.

Oh wait... 

I didn't say it was good......but it is what it is......


If it isn't good, why would you choose to believe that it's true? 

I talk to the kitchen's disposal on/off switch. It has a wee short and I'll be running the tap, dealing with dishes, and need to turn it on and then pray like a fiend to keep Murphy's Law at bay and keep sparks from touching my fingers. I live life on the edge. 

lol...not like that tommy!

Oh well, I was only trying to stay on Randle's train of thought....nevermind.

But I do believe that God loves each and everyone of us. I am far from perfect, but I know He loves me unconditionally. 

Again, is this advocating that Christians should speak to inanimate objects because that's how God speaks?

God wants us to teach and acknowledge everything is His. He wants us to go spread the word to others (who would be the mountains and trees)of His son (Jesus) being our savior...being crucified for our sins, and then rising to be one with His father. 

If it isn't good, why would you choose to believe that it's true?


You said the bible, randle. where have I EVER stated that I believed every word of the bible? I haven't because I don't. 

Why do you people get on here to make fun of what John posts. Does it make you feel good every morning to do this? 

I, for the record, ain't making fun. I absolutely do exactly what was said. 

Why do you people get on here to make fun of what John posts. Does it make you feel good every morning to do this?


I merely did as requested. His thread title said to speak like god....... so I did.



Why do you feel the need to be JL's white knight? He doesn't need you. 

I do not like to see people gang up on someone because of their belief. Does doing this make you feel good about yourself? 

please, don't fight. 

where have I EVER stated that I believed every word of the bible? I haven't because I don't.

so how do you know which parts to believe and which parts not to believe?...if you're doing the choosing...doesn't that make you self-righteous? 

I do not like to see people gang up on someone because of their belief.

You're very sensitive.

Do you need a cookie and a hug? 

I am not fighting. If you saw someone go up to another person and punch them in the face...would you step up and say stop or let the beating continue. This is what people do every day to John. He takes a verbal beating every day when he posts something from the Bible. No one steps up to defend him and so it continues every day. It is always the same people doing this. If you don't like what he posts then don't read it. 

so how do you know which parts to believe and which parts not to believe?...if you're doing the choosing...doesn't that make you self-righteous?


john, how many times do I have to answer this question for you? You have asked it soooooo many times. And I always have given you the same answer. i, myself have not read, comprehended and analyzed every part of the bible, so i will never say I believe in the whole of something that I have not read myself. That would be a bit stupid. 

i agree with you, Jeremiah. someone else must need attention this morning. they may not be able to stay on the subject of the thread without being cutting until THEY have their cookie and hug. 

I am not fighting. If you saw someone go up to another person and punch them in the face...would you step up and say stop or let the beating continue. This is what people do every day to John.


Pleeeeease. He attacks, mocks, and condescends with about 90% of his posts. He's no victim. 

If you don't like what he posts then don't read it.


Take your own advice and hide me then. 

No one steps up to defend him and so it continues every day.

Because he's said awful things/ been rude to just about every person on this board. But, you're not new so you knew that. 

What has he said here that is awful or rude? 

What has he said here that is awful or rude?

nothing here. they just like to attack. it starts their day off for them, i guess. 

you didn't "accept" me so go to an eternity of torment.

Hell is the only place that is without God. People choose during their lives whether or not they want to be with God. When they choose to not be with Him, they go to a place where God is not. Hell is bad because God is not there. 

Because he's said awful things/ been rude to just about every person on this board.

that's just what you say...but it's just another falsehood spoken about me 

What has he said here that is awful or rude?


What have I said that was so awful or rude?


JL will be just fine. Just block the big, bad , meanies like me and you can protect your delicate little sensibilities. 

[i]that's just what you say...but it's just another falsehood spoken about me


You poor wronged man!!!!!!


It's not easy being the only righteous man on KU. 

randle, or momof5, whichever one of you it is...you're the one whining on this thread...would you like some cheese with that whine? 

would you like some cheese with that whine?


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That one wasn't funny when I used to use it when I was 12 years old.