"Wikipedia: Sexual orientations

Non-binary categories
Kinsey scale
Parts of the Kinsey Reports regarding diversity in sexual orientations are frequently used to support the common estimate of 10% for homosexuality in the general population. However, the findings are not as absolute, and Kinsey himself avoided and disapproved of using terms like homosexual or heterosexual to describe individuals, asserting that sexuality is prone to change over time, and that sexual behavior can be understood both as physical contact as well as purely psychological phenomena (desire, sexual attraction, fantasy).[citation needed] Instead of three categories (heterosexual, bisexual and homosexual), a seven-point Kinsey scale system was used."


So, Kinsey thought sexuality wasn't stable, he believed it was fluid, changing and differing from time to time and there really isn't a pure sexual orientation but there was just desire for sexual acts of various kinds and attractions. It could be hetero, homo, bi, or whatever from act to act. He's famous for his "scale" of sexuality stating that almost no one is purely hetero or homo in their desires.


What say you? Do you think sexuality is fixed in us or is it fluid? 

We might form impressions based on personal experience or second-hand information, but that just leads to conjecture. I'll go with the researchers on this one. 

Are ya thinking about changing teams ? 

a Christian would already know the answer...are you trying to confuse people? 

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Lol! That's funny.

Actually no. I was just reading about Kinsey and I don't agree with his data. Everyone I've ever knows was either hetero or homo and everyone seemed quite entrenched in their identity.

If he was right tho, then homosexuals aren't born that way and neither are heteros. its all a choice basically based on environmental pressures and other outside influences.I don't believe that. And if it was more a choice based on acts and not a driven preference, then the population would be way more than about the accepted 10% homosexual.

But I'm quite aware that many things can influence us. 

Fluid.

Exhibit A: prison

We humans are adaptable to our environment. Our behavior can change as can our preferences. Being immersed in certain subcultures can accelerate change. 

Hormone levels in men and women change over time through the aging process and disease. Changes in these levels could explain the "fluid" hypothesis in some individuals. A good example is some women develop facial hair and become more sexually aggressive as they approach menopause due to the increase in testosterone. Similarly, men have a decrease in sexual desire and muscle mass due to the increase in estrogen as they age. 

"We humans are adaptable to our environment. Our behavior can change as can our preferences. Being immersed in certain subcultures can accelerate change."





But in prison there is NO choice, it's pure desperation. A novelty in circumstance.

If this were true, then we wouldn't have homosexuals hiding their preference for ages and even needing reason to do so. If it was normal to be fluid, then "fluid" would BE the norm, and it would be commonplace and it isn't. The vast majority of people really do identify with a strong dominate preference. Most people are heterosexual in a huge dominant way.

We can be talked in and out of anything however. Traditions and culture issues are strong but I still say if most people were just into sexual acts regardless of the gender of a person,you would normally have way more doing exactly that. Normal is what is common. 

Sharticus --- 4 min ago - quote - hide comments
Hormone levels in men and women change over time through the aging process and disease. Changes in these levels could explain the "fluid" hypothesis in some individuals. A good example is some women develop facial hair and become more sexually aggressive as they approach menopause due to the increase in testosterone. Similarly, men have a decrease in sexual desire and muscle mass due to the increase in estrogen as they age.






That explains libido fluctuation but not sexual preference in partners? 

If he was right tho, then homosexuals aren't born that way and neither are heteros.

there you go with your anti-God rhetoric again...the Scriptures make it clear that heterosexuality is man's normal nature...and homosexuality is the CHOICE to do what is against man's nature...

"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another"...Romans 1:26-27 

Dear Everyone who posts on this thread,

Since I can't block Lynch, please completely ignore his comments. This way adults can have a grown up discussion.


Than You,
The Manager of This Thread. 

Since I can't block Lynch, please completely ignore his comments. This way adults can have a grown up discussion.

what the wannabe really means is...ignore the truth so i can fill you full of information that is contrary to God's Word

REAL grown up conversation/discussion requires truth... 

a Christian would already know the answer...are you trying to confuse people?

Based on your Church of Closed Mindedness... 

Based on your Church of Closed Mindedness...

actually...based upon the Word of our Creator... 

actually...based upon the Word of our Creator...

 

what the wannabe really means is...ignore the truth so i can fill you full of information that is contrary to God's Word

^^^ Look at all that Fauxchristian behavior... 

^^^ Look at all that Fauxchristian behavior...

yep...from the initial post on...many instances of that...including the wong contributions... 

yep...from the initial post on...many instances of that...including the wong contributions...

And the stenchy ones.... 

I read the Kinsey report long years ago. Up until then, little had been investigated as to the sexual activity of the population at large.

I read it, then forgot it and went about the business of earning a living and pursuing the American Dream.

Later in life, with time and energy to devote to many ideas of living, some of the memories came back. This time the recollections and rereading were from a very different perspective. Maturity and a lifetime filled with influences made my acceptance level much higher and much more flexible than the teachings of church and youth.

I have a deep and abiding respect for what others choose in their social or sexual relationships. I can think of no known contact with homo or trans sexual person that had negative feelings or consequences associated with their sexuality. Each person was a distinct personality to be valued.

I know one individual that changed his/her sex in spite of the browbeating and absolute rejection from his/her family. It was a gut wrenching decision. He/she had never lived in a homosexual relationship.

I'm out of the judging business as to how other people choose to live their lives. 

Like Warren said, I think sexuality is pretty fluid. I've known gay people who will experiment with the opposite sex but is asked they will say they are gay. Same for heterosexuals...sometimes they experiment just to see what it's like to be with the same sex. Different strokes for different folks. 

I think sexuality is pretty fluid

LOL...the definition of CHOICE... 

.sometimes they experiment just to see what it's like to be with the same sex.

I know, right. Hive five. Right guys. Anyone else?
Hello... 

Why can't it be both? What difference does it really make? I think some people are born a certain way, some people change over time. The real question we should be asking is why are we still discriminating against homosexuals? Why does any person care at all who someone else is shagging?

It doesn't matter if I choose to be gay or if I'm born gay, I should be able to choose who I want to marry. I should be free to live my life without social prejudice or persecution. Luckily, most people who have a problem with homosexuality are part of a dying generation. Young folks today more and more don't care. They don't place labels on themselves or others. Makes for a much better world. 

I truly believe we are born with a definite preference for men or women- if some people experiment, that's their business- I can certain'y see a gay person doing that, in hopes they be be "normal" in the eyes of society- bottom line, though, IMO, we're born straight or gay- 

I think some people are born a certain way, some people change over time.

and your thinking is WRONG...plain and simple...

we're born straight or gay

another anti-God statement...which...by definition...makes it WRONG...which is what occurs when you believe your own opinions...and not what God says... 

It doesn't matter if I choose to be gay or if I'm born gay, I should be able to choose who I want to marry. I should be free to live my life without social prejudice or persecution. Luckily, most people who have a problem with homosexuality are part of a dying generation. Young folks today more and more don't care. They don't place labels on themselves or others. Makes for a much better world.

Yeah, who you are sexually is no longer anything that anyone thinks about. It's fine with all my friends and co- workers and they are happy that you can be with whomever you love. 

GeorgiaPeach --- 47 min ago - quote - hide comments
Like Warren said, I think sexuality is pretty fluid. I've known gay people who will experiment with the opposite sex but is asked they will say they are gay. Same for heterosexuals...sometimes they experiment just to see what it's like to be with the same sex. Different strokes for different folks.






I see that as different. Experimentation can happen despite your having a distinct sexual orientation. And it does because people can talk themselves in and out of literally anything based on their values, opinions, moods and exposure to influences. And is probably why that gay person experimented with a woman but goes back to men. 

And is probably why that gay person

LOL...there are no "gay" people...it isn't too late to repent of your wrong thinking and put your trust in God... 

exactly, SiFi- btw, do you notice the white noise? 

exactly, SiFi- btw, do you notice the white noise? 

SSDD from Lynch. 

and your thinking is WRONG...plain and simple...

 

why quote white noise? 

It's awesome that same sex marriage is coming soon to Texas, no matter what bigots and hate mongers think. 

This thread is not about judgement, it's a discussion about the mechanics of sexuality. 

I thought that was pretty clear- I guess there are always gonna be people who use any opportunity to judge- 

I guess if more people understood that most people are born with a predilection toward a certain sex then maybe they'd be more understanding, empathetic and compassionate. Other than that, I don't see how someone's sexuality or where it came from matters. We need to stop looking at it as being "different" or not normal. Who cares? 

This thread is not about judgement

the only judging by people on this thread has been from the originator of the thread and several of her ilk...

repeating God's judgment ISN'T my judgment... 

i guess if more people understood that people are actually only born either male or female...then they wouldn't make some of their silly statements...