He just said he fully trusts putin more than he trusts US intelligence agencies.

You trumpflakes must be so proud. 

trump supporters no doubt love that the President of the United States just threw this country under the bus, while praising Putin, who idealized communist ideals (while they scream about liberals being communist.)

Unbelievable how many Americans support this vile traitor. 

trump supporters no doubt love that the President of the United States just threw this country under the bus, while praising Putin, who idealized communist ideals (while they scream about liberals being communist.)

You were in the two hour private meeting? In what way did he throw the U.S. under the bus. 

You were in the two hour private meeting? In what way did he throw the U.S. under the bus.

Here, sport
trump sided with Russians, and not the intelligence agencies of the United States. If that isn't throwing our country under the bus, according to your values and morals, than what is? He literally blamed the United States for Russian interference.

I assume you are a staunch Republican who votes party over country, so I won't even bother with any more of your nonsense.

At the end of the presser, a reporter asked Putin if he had an compromising material on trump, and he giggled like a little school girl. Wake up, dude. 

I assume you are a staunch Republican who votes party over country,

I'm neither Republican or Democrat. I don't need political parties, career politicians and the party elite telling me how to think.

trump sided with Russians, and not the intelligence agencies of the United States.

So now you're privy to ALL the intelligence data? 

So now you're privy to ALL the intelligence data?

You are really reaching now.

I, like you, am
privy to the information that has been provided, which includes indictments, arrests, and guilty pleas. YOU can ignore those FACTS, but the rest of us on planet earth don't.

Fox News is at this very moment calling the presser "disgusting." 

I, like you, am
privy to the information that has been provided, which includes indictments, arrests, and guilty pleas.

You said intelligence agencies, not the Justice Department. I think its safe to say you really don't understand this. 

I assume you are a staunch Republican who votes party over country

I don't think there is such a thing but I'll throw this out to see what enlightening rebuttal there is.

No one votes "party over country". They honestly believe the party they are voting for is the best option for their country and for themselves. Logically in order for someone to vote "party over country" they would have to vote "party over themselves" and people just don't do that.

If someone doesn't agree with another person about which party best serves the country they say they are choosing "party over country" but that isn't at all what the other person is doing. They are indeed choosing THE party they feel is the best.

So, how does anyone ever choose "party over country"?

Anyhoo...I know that is a common attack phrase now but it really doesn't hold water.

Perspectives on this verbal-in- nature observation anyone? And, yes I emphasize verbal in nature because I want relevant rebuttal not just more attacks on how people vote.

Of course people don't often get what they want...lol ;) 

You said intelligence agencies, not the Justice Department. I think its safe to say you really don't understand this.

Or rather it's safe to say that you don't understand that they depend on each other for information. 

I don't think there is such a thing but I'll throw this out to see what enlightening rebuttal there is.

It's refreshing when someone like yourself immediately acknowledges that the conversation is only based on your opinion.
YOU may not think that voting party over country is "such a thing," but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, or that others don't believe in it.

No one votes "party over country".

That simply isn't true. Many people vote straight red, or straight blue, regardless of the issue or how it impacts the country as a whole. That is the very definition of voting party over country.

Logically in order for someone to vote "party over country" they would have to vote "party over themselves" and people just don't do that.

Actually, people do exactly that. Ask the farmers impacted by trump, for starters.

If someone doesn't agree with another person about which party best serves the country they say they are choosing "party over country" but that isn't at all what the other person is doing.

Here is a great article that even mentions the subject, and I made sure to find information that discusses democrats, so you won't need the cream ;)

here  

That simply isn't true. Many people vote straight red, or straight blue, regardless of the issue or how it impacts the country as a whole. That is the very definition of voting party over country.
But because they believe their party IS still the best option for their country. 

Kswood, I read the article. Sorry, you didn't understand what I was saying at all. Does anyone understand what I am theorizing? 

If that isn't throwing our country under the bus, according to your values and morals, than what is?

Lifting sanctions.

Of course, the effectiveness of them has long been the subject of endless debates.

I personally don't care if Pres. Trump and Putin exchange air kisses when they make a show for the cameras no more than I cared for the Strzok dog-and-pony show. Putin is going to do whatever he can get away with and we as a country (because our President is not a dictator and he knows it) will decide what we do at each point.

President Trump believes all this Russia meddling stuff is irrelevant and I agree. He sees Putin as maligned, similarly maligned I might add. Putin can take that as encouragement to do what he wants to do next and he ALWAYS has an agenda and thoughts about what he wants to do next. He is quite the tool (and I mean this in the meanest way). And, America will have to do what it has always done with Putin. Decide when to react, when not to react, how to react? The same thing the Obama Administration had to do. 

I think it's fun to watch all the media talking heads explode! They have no idea what was discussed between the two men in private and neither does KU. BTW...when Obama was nice to the russians nobody said a word. 

Does anyone understand what I am theorizing??
I get it. People vote for what they feel is best for themselves. It's the bullies that try to force their political views on others. 

when Obama was nice to the russians nobody said a word.?

Nice how? The previous admin implemented sanctions against them. 

It's the bullies that try to force their political views on others

Uh they vote to try to force their views on others. Republicans are notorious for wanting to force the US into a theocracy 

President Trump believes all this Russia meddling stuff is irrelevant and I agree.

It is irrelevant. Its been happening for more than 60 years, and its not just Russia. Lets not forget we do it too. 

I believe it has been documented The US has done it 61 times since WW2. Many of those include literally killing the leader(s). 

It is irrelevant. Its been happening for more than 60 years, and its not just Russia. Lets not forget we do it too.?


It's not just the election! What about Syria? Crimea? A shot down airliner? Killing people in England with radiation and chemical agents? Nuking Florida in a video?

Trump literally blamed the U.S. for poor relations with Russia while ignoring a slew of Russia's deplorable behavior. Remember how angry republicans were at Obama's "apology tour?" This is 5 times worse and only the worst kind of mental gymnastics can put a positive spin on this. 

Trump literally blamed the U.S. for poor relations with Russia while ignoring a slew of Russia's deplorable behavior.

He's right. We created the the weak foreign policies that allowed Putin to feel embolden where there were no US consequences for poor behavior. 

It's not just the election! What about Syria? Crimea? A shot down airliner? Killing people in England with radiation and chemical agents?

You do know that this sort of thing has been happening since the Korean war. The now defunct USSR, China and NK were the worst. 

He's right. We created the the weak foreign policies that allowed Putin to feel embolden where there were no US consequences for poor behavior.?


And there's the perfect example of the mental gymnastics I was referring to. 

And there's the perfect example of the mental gymnastics I was referring to.

Call it whatever you like, the facts are the last 3 administrations have done nothing of consequence with Putin. Lets not forget the Russians were complicit in the Iran nuclear program. 

And now the turnip brained trump is walking back his statements, saying he "misspoke" at the presser.

The fool looked like a hostage yesterday, reading from a script, and now that he is back on American soil, after getting his arse handed to him by even his own supporters, he is walking back his statements.

What an utterly incompetent tool. Tragic representation of the United States, but looking at his supporters, who is really surprised? 

Jesus Emp. You will do anything in your power to protect Trump. 

And now the turnip brained trump is walking back his statements, saying he "misspoke" at the presser.


What's more likely? mistakenly using the word "would" instead of " wouldn't" in a sentence or mistakenly saying "my Islamic faith" when you are Baptist?? 

The relevance? 

You mean Advisors TOLD him to say he misspoke. He never misspeaks. He is sadly self-guided except when they finally get him to retract what he says. Which is All. The. Time. He always says what's on his mind. The most UN-presidential President we have had. I expect him to outright cuss at any given moment. But of course, he will come back and say he misspoke. 

The most UN-presidential President we have had.

I see you are a style over substance person. 

Jesus Emp. You will do anything in your power to protect Trump.

I haven't said anything in support of Trump. 

I agree with Tink.

Trump is left of center line ... 

He always says what's on his mind.

Refreshing isn't it. 

The concept yes...whats on his mind? no 

He always says what's on his mind.

Refreshing isn't it.

To an extent.

Sometimes it's better to just your mouth shut. 

The smooth, highly refined style over substance type career politicians have delivered nearly nothing for this country. 

The imp is implying trump has substance LOL 

Fuzz did you forget when obama told Russia he would have more flexibility after the election

Kswood how many Americans have been indicted on Russia or collusion. How many indictments are on ten year tax evasion 

It's not just the election! What about Syria? Crimea? A shot down airliner? Killing people in England with radiation and chemical agents? Nuking Florida in a video?

Since you aren't privy to the private meeting, you're talking about your own wants.