When did this become commonplace? Who decides what group to rent to? Do they provide security so the school is safe from vandalism or theft?

I don't understand how/why this is ok...public schools should not be used as churches for any religion. 

I don't see a problem with it as long as they don't discriminate between religions. I am sure they pay the school to use the facility and pay the heat/cooling.

I believe the schools have chain barriers that keep the main parts of the school off limits during the services and there is probably a janitor paid to let them in and out when services are offer so I doubt if they are worried about theft. 

I agree with you Dorothy. 

Are they holding church and recruiting during school hours? If so I understand. If not what's the problem? 

I don't see a problem with it as long as they don't discriminate between religions. I am sure they pay the school to use the facility and pay the heat/cooling.

They do pay for the space and use of utilities/facilities. They also provide security and janitorial and insurance. Several other obligations. Many churches have been housed by schools while their own buildings are being built. It is a good income for schools who are closed on Sunday.

Some people never fail to complain about a great idea. Think about it folks. 

i cant remember clearly. but i think since schools are tax payer funded, they have some regulation that they have to be available to be used by the community...like for churhes or voting sites or other community uses..i think. 

Years ago, when we lived in Oklahoma, the city shared expenses with the high school,so the public could use the indoor pool. It was great. They had a weekly family night, swim lessons and kids swim teams. Those pools are expensive to run and you drive by and they are sitting there empty. The climate is different here, but they could be used year round. 

Has been done for years... 

If renting space to a faith group after hours has got you hot and bothered, I can't imagine what the gun raffles held by schools in the area do to you... 

If renting space to a faith group after hours has got you hot and bothered, I can't imagine what the gun raffles held by schools in the area do to you...

and the voting booths??? How long has that been going on? (Your entire life, Dot) 

i cant remember clearly. but i think since schools are tax payer funded, they have some regulation that they have to be available to be used by the community...like for churhes or voting sites or other community uses..i think.

Exactly right. Those people who go to that church are taxpayers too. 

Porter's Way Back Machine. 

doesn't retain information very well??
^^^ 

deja vu all over again! LOL! 

deja vu all over again! LOL!

this one really pissed me off. Someone who pretends to be so haughty and know it all who does not comprehend something so simple as this?? However, at least she has the courage to keep her own screenname. I applaud that. 

HAHA - I like your Way Back Machine - Porter Wagoner!

I wouldn't want to go to church in a school, but I don't mind if others do. 

This has been going on in Kingwood for over 30 years. My church was housed at Elm Grove Elementary while their current building was being built.

Churches get used for school events and schools get used for church events. 

It's better than the church I had in the vacant home next door to me. Cars were all over the block on Wed's and Sun's. It was a mess. Then we caught the pastor as a Peeping Tom looking into my house. 

I know the scouts used our Church on other side of town where DH grew up, the horrors!!!! They shoulda used the school instead I guess. 

When did this become commonplace?

Actually, it goes back to the Colonies. The Bible was used as the first classroom textbook.

Yes, it is shocking. 

Churches are a club and have been using schools since the begining of time. Schools are owned by the public so they have been used for any number of things/clubs such as the tae kwondo meet, the magic meetup, antiques shows, & multi level marketing pyramid scammers untited meet. 

I wonder what the rules exactly are. Do the schools get to decide who can use the facility or not?

What if the Church of Satan wanted to meet there? Or the Aryan Brotherhood?

How do they handle the issue of equal access to taxpayers even if the cause might not conform to traditional community values?

Not being snarky, legit question. 

At least the schools are making some money and hopefully saving us some tax money. 

I think the real criteria for use is MONEY. Lol, imagine that! They are in essence a public facility and their space can be rented out, that's it, thats all. The churches dont have buildings yet and they just lease every week. Other orgs have the same opportunity. If yo' money be green, you're in! 

This is true, SiFi. There is another angle to consider. Some churches have buildings, huge buildings, however, they know there are people who won't walk in to churches like that. (maybe they think the walls will fall down?) But they will come into a school auditorium or gym to hear the gospel. If the intention of the church is evangelism, they use the school to reach out to people who don't like stained glass. 

That thread was 3 years ago...a lot happens in three years and I don't remember every thread.

Still think public schools used for religious gatherings is wrong and doesn't remotely compare to being used for voting purposes. 

What if the Church of Satan wanted to meet there? Or the Aryan Brotherhood?

How do they handle the issue of equal access to taxpayers even if the cause might not conform to traditional community values?

I'd love to know the answers to those questions. 

Seems like Dot has has quite a bit of animosity towards churches and organizations dealing with religion renting out schools. Why such hatred? 

This thread is only a day old though... 

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Mitch Cumstein --- 1 days ago - quote Are they holding church and recruiting during school hours? If so I understand (your opposition to it). If not what's the problem?

 

Seems like Dot has has quite a bit of animosity towards churches and organizations dealing with religion renting out schools. Why such hatred?

yeah. Dot does not understand church. She should give it a try. She is currently a know it all or nothing who needs a break and perhaps a prayer or two. 

That thread was 3 years ago...a lot happens in three years and I don't remember every thread.

Your base feelings never change. 

Correct. My base feeling that there should be a separation between religion and public school will never change.

Questioning why people allow it, and trying to understand the process of how these groups are vetted, has nothing to do with base feelings.

As far as you saying I need church or your prayers, no thanks. God sees through patronizing insincerity, so, don't bother. Worry about your own religious needs, mulch. 

Well as Christians who believe in the believe and know that the only way to be in and be with God is to ask Jesus into your heart and obey his commandments. Knowing this information we know that Dot and others that post on this board will be going to hell.

My prayer is that the Holy Spirit show them the way, soften their hearts to the Lord Almighty 

I fail to see how renting to a faith based group causes you so much anxiety.

The school is not endorsing a religion anymore than the English department is endorsing use of the N word because they read Huckleberry Finn.

Lighten up a bit. 

Conversely, the church I attend hosts local Middle and High School orchestra, choir, etc. groups to have their performances held there rent-free. Should this also be prohibited?

Why not make use of these buildings when not being used for their intended purpose? 

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Correct. My base feeling that there should be a separation between religion and public school will never change"

Heres what youre overlooking. A school BUILDING is just a gov't owned facility with walls and a roof when there are no classes and school is not being conducted. Now, if church goers were showing up during school hours, having church or trying to give out materials or evangelize, or cover the walls with religious materials, i'd agree with you that that is not
appropriate. But when school is out, its a gov't
owned facility or community center that they lease
out for profit, and in order to be fair, all taxpayers or
citizens should have it available to them as long as they pay and agree to its terms. And i suspect
limiting it to certain types of groups would result in law suits of exclusion/discrimination that they would lose.

IOW, its just a rental facility when school is not in session. 

Knowing this information we know that Dot and others that post on this board will be going to hell.


Hilarious!
Hey, Big Ben.

What about forum trolls that have 1000's of IDs and go on insanity rants or send out vicious PMs to others? Or pretend to be a Mod or post that they are "hired" by Adam to stir up drama on here?

Do they go to heaven?

Or do they just obliterate and rise again?

LMAO. 

Seems like Dot has has quite a bit of animosity towards churches and organizations dealing with religion renting out schools. Why such hatred?


Seems like Benny has quite a bit of animosity towards the moderators. Look for his thread on that topic. Why such hatred? 

yeah. Dot does not understand church. She should give it a try. She is currently a know it all or nothing who needs a break and perhaps a prayer or two.


You who attend church, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR. Church doesn't seem to be helping you with your attacks of others. Hypocrite.