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Joe Blow 1
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TinktheSprite --- 72 days ago -

2of9Lorri Burnett photographed equipment used for the beginnings of border wall construction at the National Butterfly Center on Sunday, Feb. 3, 2019.Photo: Courtesy, Lorri Burnett
3of9Lorri Burnett photographed equipment used for the beginnings of border wall construction at the National Butterfly Center on Sunday, Feb. 3, 2019.Photo: Courtesy, Lorri Burnett

A gigantic yellow earth mover arrived on National Butterfly Center land Sunday afternoon, the first sign of the beginnings of border wall construction in that protected habitat.

The steel-and-concrete levee wall is expected to slice through the center, placing 70 of the sanctuary’s 100 acres of land south of it

https://www.nationalbutterflycenter.org/about-nbc/maps-directions/9-national-butterfly-center/258-border-wall-information 

sdanielmcev --- 72 days ago -

So? They're butterflies. They will adapt. 

Joe Blow --- 71 days ago -

To many, ignorance is bliss. You know who you are.

LMFAO 

TinktheSprite --- 71 days ago -

There is a direct correlation between plants and insects. If one or the other become threatened or endangered, their existence may be permanently altered. IOW they don't simply "adapt". 

sdanielmcev --- 71 days ago -

Actually they do adapt. What part of their habitat will be deconstructed that is no longer adaptable? 

TinktheSprite --- 71 days ago -

Um , the wall part?! 

sdanielmcev --- 71 days ago -

I guess the roads and the building don't count. 

TinktheSprite --- 70 days ago -

Ok. Read the article. A wall and all construction will cut through a 100 acre place meant to house and protect butterflies. The total purpose of this acreage is to help butterflies therefore help plant life, e therefore help ecosystems.The National Park will be reduced by 2/3 on the US side. THAT'S what were taking about here. 

sdanielmcev --- 70 days ago -

I did read the article.
I just don't agree that butterflies should stop the wall. 

fuzz81 --- 70 days ago -

A wall is useless symbolism to pander to the rubes. It would be completely ineffective. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 70 days ago -

A wall is useless symbolism to pander to the rubes. It would be completely ineffective. 

Then why do all the border patrol agents ask for walls if they don't work. Maybe you should listen to them instead of the biased media. You might learn what is really going on in the border area.

BTW...if walls don't work why do all the rich people live behind them? 

DVaz --- 70 days ago -

Then why do all the border patrol agents ask for walls if they don't work. Maybe you should listen to them instead of the biased media. You might learn what is really going on in the border area.

BTW...if walls don't work why do all the rich people live behind them? 


I wonder how long will have to wait for Mr. Potato Head to give a legitimate response... 

OrdinaryGuy --- 70 days ago -

Here's one....Obama's Border Patrol Chief Mark Morgan, says walls work. How's that!! Maybe you need to do some research yourself.



Once again when you can't dispute something resort to an insult! 

OrdinaryGuy --- 70 days ago -

Here's another response....how come Obama said walls work? How come both Pelosi and Schumer voted for a wall TWICE...in 2006 and 2013. What about those facts dvaz? 

OrdinaryGuy --- 70 days ago -

Another response...when Yuma, Arizona increased their border walls from 5 miles to 70 miles illegal immigration went from 140,000 a year to 15,000 the next year. How's that response??? LOL 

OrdinaryGuy --- 70 days ago -

So what....I'll bet that group wasn't 125,000 strong. If that's all you got then you need to try again. BTW...they are now warned and I'll bet they won't do it again. All you democrats do is complain but never come up with a solution.

You never answered about why Pelosi, Schumer and Obama wanted a wall before. Were they wrong??? 

fuzz81 --- 70 days ago -

The overall trend along the southern border has broadly been one of declining apprehensions, regardless of fencing or barriers in various sectors. The only section that saw a net increase in border apprehensions over the 2000-2017 time period was the Rio Grande Valley, which was also the only sector “where physical barriers have been expanded” that the RNC conveniently omitted from their “fact”. In total, border apprehensions across all sectors dropped 81% from 2000-2017 

OrdinaryGuy --- 69 days ago -

Funny how you stopped at 2017. So what you are saying is that all the border workers are wrong and you are right. It must be all the experience you have working at the border. Even Obama's Border Chief said that walls work but what does he know? He only worked there for 30+ years. 

TinktheSprite --- 69 days ago -

Butterflies still lose life supporting plantlife, sanctuary, and food. 

DVaz --- 69 days ago -

Here's another response....how come Obama said walls work? How come both Pelosi and Schumer voted for a wall TWICE...in 2006 and 2013. What about those facts dvaz? 

We both know socialists despise facts. 

fuzz81 --- 69 days ago -

all the border workers are wrong and you are right

Not ALL the “border workers” support your position. So the rest of the ‘“border workers” are wrong, and you are right? 

fuzz81 --- 69 days ago -

We both know socialists despise facts. 

We all know republicans can’t comprehend context. You rubes can’t see past the brims of your MAGA hate caps. 

TinktheSprite --- 69 days ago -

A recent report found that the Eastern population of the monarch butterflies in North America is still suffering from long-term population decline. If the trend continues, the iconic monarch butterflies could face an 11 to 57 percent chance of going quasi-extinct in the next two decades.

Butterflies and moths have been living on Earth for at least 50 million years. Their highly diverse group consists of more than 250,000 species. For centuries, butterflies have been used as "model organisms" for the investigation of various areas in biological research such as genetics, evolution, embryology, navigation, pest control, biodiversity conservation and population dynamics.

The long-standing and popularity of butterfly research has provided invaluable data that remains unmatched in terms of time and geographical scale worldwide. This collection of studies proves valuable to climate change research.

In recent years, mass populations of insect pollinators such as butterflies and bees have faced near-extinction events. These pollinators are extremely important in the world's food source. Without them, people will not enjoy chocolates, apples, coffee and other foods that have become vital in our daily existence.

Nearly 75 percent of the food crops worldwide depend on these pollinators, therefore, their existence and health affect the food production. Experts also said that in the past 50 years, agriculture's dependence on pollination increased by 300 percent. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 69 days ago -

Not ALL the “border workers” support your position

Please name one border worker who is against the wall. I named one who is for it. He worked for Pres Obama as I said before. You also ignored the fact that Pres Obama, Sen Schumer and Speaker Pelosi were all for a wall. Were they wrong? 

fuzz81 --- 69 days ago -

The national border patrol union

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TinktheSprite --- 68 days ago -

Butterflies, People! This thread is about the BUTTERFLIES! 

fuzz81 --- 68 days ago -

Silence from OG after schooling him again. 

DVaz --- 68 days ago -

Care to link the actual source fuzz? You know, an actual website link. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 68 days ago -

Silence from OG after schooling him again. 

Only in your dreams. Unlike you, I have a life outside of KU. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 68 days ago -

Care to link the actual source fuzz? You know, an actual website link.

Oops! LOL 

DVaz --- 68 days ago -

Thanks for posting, fuzz. Maybe you should read this article, as it seems they changed their mind because they care more about America than their jobs -

What The Border Patrol Really Believes about the Wall

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/trump-nbpc/580237/ 

fuzz81 --- 67 days ago -

But OG said ALL border workers want a massive wall. Obviously that’s not true at all. Schooling him again. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 67 days ago -

But OG said ALL border workers want a massive wall. Obviously that’s not true at all. Schooling him again. 

You don't school anyone but think what you want. BTW....if you don't like it here...leave! 

OrdinaryGuy --- 67 days ago -

Just curious fuzzball, how many border agents have you talked to?. I've talked to about a dozen and they ALL want a wall. 

fuzz81 --- 67 days ago -

Lol. Sure you did. You don’t have 12 friends. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 66 days ago -

Lol. Sure you did. You don’t have 12 friends

Once again, since you can't make your point you resort to an insult. Standard practice for you. I go to the border almost every weekend so I have talked to more than 12 border agents. How many have you talked to? 

TinktheSprite --- 66 days ago -

Can we EVER have a decent grown ip.men kind of conversation here? Ever? Grow up, Boys! 

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