Growing up in Kingwood I watched many of my classmates and friends fall victim to drug and alcohol addictions. Sometimes it stemmed from their parents and sometimes they just fell in with the wrong crowed. I know (admittedly from former personal experience) that drugs are easy to get a hold of in Kingwood/Humble/Atascocita. Does anyone else think this is a growing problem especially among high school students and recent grads?

On a side note: If you or someone you know is struggling with addiction there?s meetings all over the Houston area and you can search for them on www.nascona.org and www.AAhouston.com. Additionally, if you or someone you know needs to seek treatment I found a facility in College station through a mutual friend who I went to Kpark with and he helped one of my best friends get into it. It?s Aggie owned and operated (he wouldn?t shut up about that part) and when my friend finally came home he seemed solidified in his sobriety and ready to get back to living his best life and I know that with the path he was on he wouldn?t be here today if he hadn?t gotten help and I thank God almost every single day that he did. 

anyone know why there's question marks in place of the ampersand symbol in my post? I had to type it up in word because the webpage kept crashing on me when I was typing and Id lose my progress. 

anyone know why there's question marks in place of the ampersand symbol in my post? I had to type it up in word because the webpage kept crashing on me when I was typing and Id lose my progress.?

I never thought to ask about that. It just does that :) If you want you can hit the edit button and clean it up a bit; the changes will "take" :) 

Sometimes it stemmed from their parents and sometimes they just fell in with the wrong crowed.

BS. They made a choice. 

If parents sit around half crocked all the time, gotta have a drink as soon as they get home from work and promote drinking as a pass time you will have underage drinking and alcoholism in young people. They see you do it and think it is the way to go. That is not to say that some don't take up drinking on their own or from their peers. 

We have a spiritual crisis in the world. We always have but its getting worse.People are not finding happiness bc it's not about THEM, not about possessions, not about money...it's about connecting with God, bc He is good and he's good all the time.

The Bible says In the end times people will become lovers of themselves, disrespectful to their parents, idolaters, (worshipping at the alter of drugs, alcohol, money, sex ...) greedy, lustful and full of self pride. All this leads to destruction and we're seeing it everywhere. Now, we also have an opioid "epidemic" amongst the middle class and up.. 

The Kingwood Club
810A Russell Palmer Rd
Kingwood, Tx

(281) 358 5924

Multiple meetings daily. Learn about what you are dealing with. 

anyone know why there's question marks in place of the ampersand symbol in my post? I had to type it up in word because the webpage kept crashing on me when I was typing and Id lose my progress.?

Has to do with the translation between programs. Use Word to copy paste into the text box, add the comment, then edit.

That's worked best for me. Your mileage may vary. 

Do you actually believe that tripe has any bearing on substance abuse?

Once again, fuzzball weighs in with the negative.......

He usually doesn't add anything positive at all. 

The Godless don't believe in spiritual things. It tends to put a hole in everything they think. It's a shame isn't it? 

It's a shame isn't it??

Yes...in the end they will pay. 

Substance abusers are the most selfish narcissistic loathsome creatures on earth. They care only about themselves and don't care who they hurt. I have no sympathy for them and their self inflicted wounds. 

Sounds like an angry, bitter, frustrated, pi$$ed off victim of addiction.

Even an emperor is affected. 

Yep that's how addicts destroy others, and themselves, and how they make others feel.
Let's not forget who the REAL victims are. 

Let's not forget who the REAL victims are.

Nobody wins.

There's a lot that Bob is not telling. 

"Nobody wins"

What is he not telling?

And that's true but you know what the difference is? One of the parties made a choice to ruin their own lives and in the process, their decision destroyed families and other people and caused deep traumatic pain to innocent people who cared and tried to help. That's disgusting at any level.

Nobody wins is like saying a guy robbed a bank, shot up the place and got killed by the cops and in the mix of all that bank employees died too...nobody wins but only the perp deserved what he got. 

Emp lacks empathy... 

That's right, I have no empathy or sympathy for self inflicted wounds that destroy or damage others lives. 

We have a spiritual crisis in the world. We always have but its getting worse.People are not finding happiness bc it's not about THEM, not about possessions, not about money...it's about connecting with God, bc He is good and he's good all the time.

How do you explain the millions of Christians that are addicts? They believe in your version of god. They have grown up in Christianity. Yet they still smoke, drink, have sex outside of their marriage, abuse painkillers, commit crimes.

Or is it just easier to ignore facts and statistics, and believe that only atheists and followers of other religions to be immoral?

How many Christian based addict recovery centers are there compared with no religion? I'll wait... 

Ok, ok, ok, I have to weigh in on this one. I have 1st hand experience with drug and alcohol addiction. My aunt lay dead for 4 days of an overdose on pills before she was found at the age of 46. I, myself have had a pill addiction for years before I got help. I have had 12 (no lie) back surgeries and doctors just kept giving me pills. Your mind and body become addicted. I didn't choose to be that way. But I did choose to get help. It had nothing to do with a bad childhood or anything like that. And at first it had nothing to do with getting high. It was all about getting out of pain. But the more drugs you take the more you get used to them and need more to feel the high or get out of the pain your in. You do get to a point were you will lie, cheat and steal for the drugs. You treat the ones you love most like crap. Your world revolves around the drug and the next fix. It's a horrible cycle. I lived 10 years like that. Now I'm pill free and just live on Tylenol and a pain patch. And I just found put 3 weeks ago I need another fusion so that means I have to be on opiates again. To be honest I am so scared that I'm thinking about not having the surgery because of my history.

Point is, don't judge people. You don't know a person's history as to why they are on drugs. Have some compassion. But an addict can be toxic to be around. Don't allow them to take advantage of you. Set boundaries in your relationship with them.

Hope all that makes sense. 

Ps I am a Christian and I did put drugs before Christ. I had to learn to depend on Jesus instead of drugs. I prayed and prayed to have Him take the pain from me. But Jesus kept telling me the same thing that the apostle Paul said......MY GRACE IS ENOUGH. 

Emp lacks empathy...

Yup. That kind o anger has been fed for a long time. A very long time.

My guess is that Bob had/has an addict/alcoholic within the closeness of his family. Maybe a parent, spouse, sibling or child. 

Nobody wins is like saying a guy robbed a bank, shot up the place and got killed by the cops and in the mix of all that bank employees died too...nobody wins but only the perp deserved what he got.

Not even close analogy, Sifi. 

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How do you explain the millions of Christians that are addicts? They believe in your version of god. They have grown up in Christianity. Yet they still smoke, drink, have sex outside of their marriage, abuse painkillers, commit crimes. "







What do you mean? Do you think believing there's a God gives you special freedom from problems? Whether you're a believer or NOT, doesn't mean you don't live in this world with weaknesses or temptations. Christians live here too ya know.

They also have a part, a responsibility, and an accountability that they MUST exert to see success. God tells us what to do, what not to do and how to get free from strongholds and things that have taken over our lives. They must work the plan, just like everyone else, but it's God's plan. Does that mean they don't fail? Is everyone successful just bc they wear the Christian labeL?? No. But many are successful and you don't have to look far to find them.

Empathy from everyone is often a disaster for an addict. Been there, done that. Oh, it made me feel like I was "helping". Reality is, I wasn't. Nothing changed. Everyone tried. I was weak and full of sympathy when the truth is, they needed truth.They need ACCOUNTABILITY bc they refuse to hold themselves accountable. They all have that in common.

Empathy is best served to those who get cancer, are victims of accidents and horrible diseases they did nothing to deserve.

And, we ARE in a spiritual crisis, and saying Christians are druggies too just helps prove that point. God never fails, people do. 

This is beginning to be an interesting thread. 

Does empathy help a drug addict? How?

My first instinct is always empathy. But I see the truth. It doesn't actually help them. There's nitching wrong with being understanding. But for how long? How many times? Where's the line?

In the end, they have to want it and be willing to suffer to get sober.

Ironically, I just found out today, another 20 something is dead from drugs and dealing drugs. This week. He was a close buddy of our family friend who died of an overdose. Empathy? 

Maybe you're confusing empathy with sympathy, Sifi.

An understanding of someone's plight does not mean pity. It does not mean blind support.

Indeed, it's quite the opposite. 

Empathy is understanding. Sympathy is feeling bad, sad or whatever in conjunction with anothers plight.

I'll admit, there's been times both have broken my heart. Neither did any good, except I knew I'm human.

But the anger you called out is part and parcel of of the grieving process when someone throws their life away and you tuck their funeral program away in your drawer and walk away.

The grief addiction causes is similar to any loss, there are stages of grief. 

Nicely said. Grief is very similar with acceptance of death, and is usually associated with it. 

The grief addiction causes is similar to any loss, there are stages of grief.

Indeed it is a loss. It's the loss of dreams, a loss of life, a loss of emotional wellbeing. It's a loss of relationships, real and imagined.

Such a waste of the gift of life.

At the end of the grief is a new life, without bitterness or anger. If anger remains, the process is not complete. 

Empathy from everyone is often a disaster for an addict.

Exactly. It enables them to continue their narcissistic self absorbed brand of self destruction. 

No problem for you, Bob. 

Hope all that makes sense.?

Makes sense to me. 

How many Christian based addict recovery centers are there compared with no religion?

Atheists and their ilk are amoral. So why would a group of non-compassionate people have a support group? 

Atheists and their ilk are amoral.

Some of the most moral people I know are atheists... just sayin.... 

Atheists and their ilk are amoral. So why would a group of non-compassionate people have a support group?


Completely ignorant. 

drugs are easy to get a hold of in Kingwood/Humble/Atascocita.


Drugs are easy to get all over the nation. They're rampant.

Ignore the Emperor. He's a know it all who clearly knows little about addiction.

Thanks for posting about this crisis. 

knows little about addiction.

I know addiction is a choice exercised by the weak minded, sympathy seekers who can't handle real life. 

I know addiction is a choice exercised by the weak minded, sympathy seekers who can't handle real life.?


O Jesus Christ, that is your opinion which sounds completely ignorant and uneducated but you feel free to cling to it.

LMFAO