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Ron Paul Secretly Won the Caucuses

They all laughed at Ron Paul. They all laughed when he took a stage in Minnesota, having come in a solid second place, and reminded the faithful of a "little thing called delegates!"

They were serious about it. Paul's people believe that they understand the delegate process, and that the media does not. There is truth here: The delegate process is confusing, and I assume that Paul supporters have used their four years of organizing and studying in a fruitful manner. In an e-mail to supporters, they try to get granular about what's occuring.

We are confident in gaining a much larger share of delegates than even our impressive showing yesterday indicates. As an example of our campaign’s delegate strength, take a look at what has occurred in Colorado:

- In one precinct in Larimer County, the straw poll vote was 23 for Santorum, 13 for Paul, 5 for Romney, 2 for Gingrich. There were 13 delegate slots, and Ron Paul got ALL 13.

- In a precinct in Delta County the vote was 22 for Santorum, 12 for Romney, 8 for Paul, 7 for Gingrich. There were 5 delegate slots, and ALL 5 went to Ron Paul.

- In a Pueblo County precinct, the vote was 16 for Santorum, 11 for Romney, 3 for Gingrich and 2 for Paul. There were 2 delegate slots filled, and both were filled by Ron Paul supporters.

- We are also seeing the same trends in Minnesota, Nevada, and Iowa, and in Missouri as well.

For this to stick, Paul's activists have to show up at the next votes -- small affairs, not much media, happening in March -- and control the delegate process. Then they have to show up at conventions and repeat it. This is actually doable.


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If Ron Paul keeps takin' all the delegates, we got this sewn up!!!

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Buh bye ROMNEY, GINGRICH, SANTORUM AND OBAMA! Don't let the door hit ya...actually, nevermind...I hope it does! 

Charlie Sheen aint got nuttin on Paul

Whose winning now Charlie? 

I read Ron Paul's book Revolution. It was incredible.

Revolution: A manifesto!

I highly suggest it to ANYONE interested in LIBERTY.


Whose winning now Charlie?


;) 

I am for Ron Paul. The media and the money handlers know they cannot control him so they will keep him out of the spotlight for the masses.


:D It is SO refreshing to see that people actually see and know and understand WHY the media and the establishment put so much effort into silencing Ron Paul.

Because their TAX-PAID gravy train is about to be OVER, that's why!!! 

I am for Ron Paul. The media and the money handlers know they cannot control him so they will keep him out of the spotlight for the masses.


:D It is SO refreshing to see that people actually see and know and understand WHY the media and the establishment put so much effort into silencing Ron Paul.

Because their TAX-PAID gravy train is about to be OVER, that's why!!!

i aint relly kept up much with paul but the fact that most military people support him says enough for me.

There must be a reason!

So! i like paul based on that alone 

I even saw a Veterans for Ron Paul sign in sand creek! :D 

Truth is treason in an empire of lies. - Ron Paul

John Lynch would agree with that
come to think of it
I agree too

great quote! 

He would be the BEST Secretary of the Treasury EVER.

Can't we just all agree that we need him in that regard? Desperately?

But keep him as far from foreign policy as possible. 

His foreign policy is one of my MAIN REASONS of support for his campaign.

His foreign policy is DEFINITELY the reason he is the choice of the military. We should listen to them.

They've been playing this game for a decade! Deploying over and over and over again. The men and women who have seen and lived through the nature of war and occupation know MUCH BETTER than ANY politician what needs to be done regarding military action.

Ron Paul was an officer in the military. In my opinion that is the FIRST REQUIREMENT for any presidential candidate. 

I hope he gets the nomination. Love him or think he's a nutcase, he's the only one of the group with any true character. He's also the only true conservative, IMO. 

I have to agree, Oh Snap. 

Good News!
He can run his his secret White House from his undisclosed SECRET location while he prepares for his son to mount a secret campaign to become President in '16. His only flaw is that his son will probably not be re-elected in the next go-round as Senator ,due to the persistence of pappy to force a brokered convention on ideas not relevant to actual facts on this Earth.

Is Go -round the correct term for a non Yay-hoo to be using? I was taught proper English, Hey yalll, Iz just be tri'n to makes cents. 

LOVE his economic policy. Most conservatives would completely support him for that. First choice on anything relating to the economy. LAST choice on anything relating to foreign policy. For that, I want someone who does not think that the US has caused the hate within Islam. That's just ridiculous. 

Can't be on the moon, Newt claimed that dirt as KING. 

Ron Paul has the only reasonable foreign policy.

And if anyone attacks us, we WILL fight.

The point here is to avoid war.

They can hate us all they want! Good for them! They should be free to think whatever they want about us! That doesn't mean they are going to harm our nation or try and invade. (They literally are NOT capable of harming us. We would obliterate any attempt and they know and recognize this fact.)

In the case any nation DID make aggressive moves towards us Ron Paul would no doubt mobilize an unstoppable beast to thwart any attack.

You don't start wars to prevent them.

We should do everything EXACT OPPOSITE as these parasites in Washington have been doing for decades. Which means NO MORE WAR.


We can't POSSIBLY think the Bush/Obama foreign policy is what we need!!!!!!!!

Look at how the Cold War was handled and ENDED. Russia had REAL NUKES ready to demolish us in a second while Iran doesn't even WANT a nuclear weapon, nor do they have any sort of nuclear weapons program.

Another nation hating us does NOT mean push them in a corner and poke them with a stick until they fight us. How does that keep America safe?! 

Most people I've heard from love his economic policy, his smaller government approach, shutting down the TSA, shutting down the Federal Reserve, shutting down the IRS, and the whole idea that the federal government has no right to tell anyone what they can or can't do with their bodies.

Those reasons alone are more reasons than I've ever heard of anyone voting for a Presidential candidate. Most people end up voting for the lesser of two evils. I think Ron Paul is the exception to that now.

As for foreign policy, why don't we TRULY SUPPORT OUR TROOPS and Vote for their candidate of choice. If the military likes his foreign policy enough to send more of their hard earned financial support two election cycles in a row than all other candidates combined, who are we to say we don't like his foreign policy?

Support our troops, VOTE Ron Paul. 

Because Ron Paul does not at all represent most American's views of Israel, or the middle East. To me, he is in complete denial of what we are actually facing. His idea of leaving them alone is ludicrous and dangerous.

And you guys seem to have no understanding of Islam's history, or motivations. 

you guys seem to have no understanding of Islam's history, or motivations.


Sorry, not buying it Work in Progress. It's a load of bull I've watched America turn into a lunatic society screaming for a holy-religious war.

Do YOU understand the history behind CHRISTIANITY? Do you know how much bloodshed it has caused??

If it's war you want then we are NOT on the same page in any way. If it's war against a RELIGION you want, then good god, I hope you find reason. 

During the Cuban Missile crisis the US government had plans to remote control air liners over the ocean and have them blown up in efforts to blame Cuba for shooting down a commercial airliner. They had plans to detonate bombs in major US cities to blame on Cuba. They had plans to attack a US naval ship just like Israel did to the USS Liberty.

All these plans were scrapped in exchange for Diplomacy. If we could prevent Nuclear weapons being launched at us and thwarting a war of that magnitude 40 years ago, then why can't we do it now when there aren't bombs aimed at us? Because the wars are about money, greed, and controlling resources.

Since our invasion of Afghanistan their drug trade has nearly tripled. Before we arrived they were having trouble getting their drugs out of the region.

Since our invasion of middle east we've seen NO benefit of our controlling of the oil fields and oil trade.

Terrorism is just as rampant or even more so now after 11 or more years of our fighting over there.

As for Israel. The government of Israel is not what I believe the bible meant when it stated that we are to support the people of Israel. Our support of Israel is very dangerous for America. Why is that? If Israel were not doing things to anger the Muslim community, then why would they need protection even though their own Prime Minister has stated that he doesn't want or need our help?

They have an army, they have a navy, they have nukes, they have an air force, what exactly are we protecting and if not in the middle east for the reasons I mentioned above, why are we there?

Again, if you really want to support our troops, bring them home. 

Defcon. I most definitely do not want war. Do you know who does? Islam.

Their Koran calls for our death. It calls for the complete and total annihilation of Israel. They have a phrase that says, "Kill the Jews on Saturday, kill the Christians on Sunday."

I would love to talk to you anytime about the history of all of this. I think that you would be very surprised. I know that I was.

And yes, I'm familiar with the history of "Christianity", which was not the practice of Christianity at all, but rather government in the name of religion. You know, like Islam. And what they have plans for would make the Crusades and Inquisition look like a Sunday School picnic. 

Because Ron Paul does not at all represent most American's views of Israel, or the middle East.

I'm not asking this to set you up for attack or anything like that, I'm just curious why exactly you believe that statement? What is your belief on that matter and why do you believe that Ron Paul would not help Israel if they were attacked and why do you believe that we need to be in the middle east?

I'm only asking because when I have asked that question to other people they have responded with what they heard on the news and not actual facts.

We could say that we are in the middle east because we were attacked on 9/11 but the facts are that every "terrorist" attack in the US has been linked directly back to our own intel agencies. Just like when they tried to justify our murdering Libya's leaders based on the idea that they were murdering their own people; we then armed and funded Al Qaeda to take over their government install Sheria Law. Hundreds if not thousands more people have died since Gadaffi was murdered and the region is more unstable now than it was before we got there.

Afghanistan is in far worse shape as is Iraq than when we got there and we now looking at war with Pakistan, secret ops in Egypt and Yemen.

It has been US foreign policy for a very long time that when a nation does not play along with the new world order, we first send in economic hit men to destroy their economy. If that fails they send in the jackals to kill the nations leader. If that fails we either invade or we send in the bombers as we did in Libya. This has been our foreign policy and this has made us hated by those who realize it for what it is. That's why some middle eastern nations want to attack us but the fact is that they can't even attack us because we have the best and most well funded military and intelligence agencies in the world. So how do we get the US public to support wars for profit and control? They fake terror attacks just as they planned to do with Cuba during the missile crisis.

They've been doing this for a very long time, why would they stop now.

With those facts, I'd have to conclude that our current foreign policy is not working out for anyone. 

I think that we need to be in the Middle East because Iran is nuclear (they now have a fuel cell), and has plans to nuke both Israel and us.

And that's just ONE country. What about what it is happening in Syria? Libya? Tunisia? Egypt? The list goes on and on. The world is about to explode Rev. Ron Paul is not the person I want in office when that happens. Of course, he would probably be better than Obama, but that's not saying much. 

I think that we need to be in the Middle East because Iran is nuclear (they now have a fuel cell), and has plans to nuke both Israel and us.


That is SO wrong, wild and out there.

I'm going to work.

Goodness. 

You say it's wrong, and Good god, but this IS their report. What is your source that it is wrong?

I'm really confused as to where you get your "facts", because they are not anyone else's facts! 

I'm really confused as to where you get your "facts", because they are not anyone else's facts!

You must not have read the WHOLE THREAD about it. 

From other thread,

"Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper told a Senate committee, “We do not know if Iran will eventually decide to build nuclear weapons.”

This would be news to most Americans, who for several years have been subjected to a steady drumbeat of alarming reports about Iran’s alleged nuclear-weapons program and its imminent acquisition of the bomb. Yet here is America’s top intelligence officer admitting that Iran has not even decided to build a weapon. 

Iraq didn't have WMD's
Iran doesn't have WMD's

I am NOT BUYING this crap two wars in a row. 

why do you believe that Ron Paul would not help Israel if they were attacked

Would Ron Paul help Israel?

Do YOU understand the history behind CHRISTIANITY? Do you know how much bloodshed it has caused??

Is Ron Paul anti Christian?

These are honest questions, as I am still very undecided in this primary. 

Is Ron Paul anti Christian?

Negative! Not by any means! I was simply making a point that wars and violence have been used in the name of Christianity as well as any other religion.

Would Ron Paul help Israel?

I believe if they needed help and asked us for it, yes.

But their own people have said they don't need our help at this point in time. 

Thanks for the info, Defcon, I'm still thinking. 

Thanks for the info, Defcon, I'm still thinking.

You're welcome.

Don't ever stop thinking. If you're thinking, you're winning! 

I think that we need to be in the Middle East because Iran is nuclear (they now have a fuel cell), and has plans to nuke both Israel and us.

And that's just ONE country. What about what it is happening in Syria? Libya? Tunisia? Egypt? The list goes on and on. The world is about to explode Rev. Ron Paul is not the person I want in office when that happens. Of course, he would probably be better than Obama, but that's not saying much.

I understand your concerns and Ron Paul understands your concerns and that this is most of America's worries. He is not saying that he would not defend America, quite the opposite. He has stated clearly that he would go to war if Congress declares war, but that he as the president does not have the right to declare war.

That being said Ron Paul also understands that the only reason Iran wants a nuclear weapon is because it's their right to defend themselves. Why would they need to defend themselves you ask? Because the US has completely surrounded Iran with US bases, tanks, air fields, and now ships all with the nuclear capability to annihilate Iran.

Iran has every right to a nuclear weapons as China, Russia, North Korea, or any of the other many nations that have them. Iran is no different. Russia once stated clearly that they were going to bomb us with their nukes, we didn't invade, we didn't surround their nation with our bases. We worked it out.

Here's one thing that we have to keep in mind. Our nation spends more money on defense than all nations combined. What good is that defense budget if we use it all in preemptive wars of aggression, not defense? There is not a nation on the planet that can launch a bomb at the US that we can't shoot down. Nor is there a nation on the planet that would risk the lives of their entire population to lob a missile at us. I know many people think that Muslims would do this but that's just not true. There are radicals in every country that want war, including ours. And ours are risking their entire population to reach their agendas. I just thank God that our military is strong because if it weren't, then we would truly be at risk.

Now I understand that Ron Paul wants to decrease our defense budget and the size of our military but in doing so he is not going to jeopardize the nation. The cuts he is looking to make are not cuts that will put us in danger if you understand the over all strength of our military. Many of the things he wants to cut are already failed plans.

When Clinton closed a bunch of military bases here in the US the nation thought were going to be invaded and destroyed.

I guess the absolute fact is that we just can't afford to be the global protector anymore. We are financially, emotionally, physically, and morally broke. The more wars we wage and the more aggressive actions we take, the more at danger we truly are. 

But see, Iran doesn't say that it wants a nuclear weapon to defend itself. It says that it wants to annihilate Israel, COMPLETELY. Wipe it from the map.

And it wants the same for us. Or at least to cause as much mayhem and destruction for us as possible.

And retaliation? They aren't worried about it. They believe that their Mahdi will return, and they are willing to die for it. 

Let me be clear on one thing. This is not the desire of the Iranian people. They are fed up with this regime which has focused itself entirely on eschatology, to the detriment of the people. The people want this regime gone. 

It says that it wants to annihilate Israel, COMPLETELY. Wipe it from the map.



You show me who is saying that.

REAL sources say that Iran doesn't even have a nuclear weapons program nor are they even trying to get one.

They also have ALWAYS cooperated with the nuclear treaty they signed which requires them to let the UN come inspect ALL their nuclear stuff.

Nope. America bought the Nuke lies with Iraq. We can't let it happen again.


IRAN HAS NO NUKES.

ISRAEL HAS A HUGE NUCLEAR ARSENAL ALREADY AIMED AT IRAN.

You tell me who is safer. 

The people want this regime gone.


Then it is THEIR responsibility to overthrow their government and institute a new government to their liking.

THAT IS IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM ANY OF OUR BUSINESS. 

I've posted all of those quotes from their top leaders numerous times. Let me see if I can find the main thread where I had it all looked up. 

Then it is THEIR responsibility to overthrow their government and institute a new government to their liking.

THAT IS IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM ANY OF OUR BUSINESS.

I didn't say that it was, but it is to our benefit if this regime is OUT. 

And btw, the reason why this regime IS in, is because Carter did NOTHING in 1979.