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I_won't_tell 2
SagaciousSighFiGurl 18
TinktheSprite 1
sdanielmcev 8
Emperor of Kingwood 9
DVaz 7
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AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 81 days ago -

Not to mention, they don't want to be citizens, they love Mexico, and only want to send money home- 

DVaz --- 81 days ago -

Yes I know that. I mentioned it bc Dvaz said the reason politicians don't push for enforcement of laws is bc they could be a voting block. Annnd my point is, was, even the majority of the legal ones who are eligible for citizenship, don't actually go through with it, only 42% do. So no illegals are gonna end up voting lol 

Keep living in la-la land. I personally worked with illegal immigrants who EASILY became citizens, with only the slightest ability to speak a word of English, and vote. Talk to the kitchen workers at restaurants, work construction sites, or work lawn services. Oh wait, you never had to work a lowly job like that... 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 81 days ago -

I guess you know more than Pew research and the census Bureau?

According to them, we have more Hispanic immigrants and illegals than any other group and they are far less likely to pursue citizenship vs the other groups, actually putting themselves in a position to actually vote...That leads one to believe the whole voting block dealio is a in your head. 

DVaz --- 81 days ago -

What the hell are you jiving about? Hispanics make up approximately %90 of illegal immigrants. Even a small fraction of them becoming citizens blows all others out of the water. Democrats are losing black voters. They need Hispanics to come here and depend on them so those Hispanics will continuously vote Dems into office. Common sense SiFi. Keep your head in the sand if you so please.

800,000 to 2.2 million illegals are registered to vote. Guess who they vote for...

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/15/nearly-2-million-non-citizen-hispanics-illegally-r/ 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 81 days ago -

How are illegals registered to vote?? You have to be a CITIZEN. 

DVaz --- 80 days ago -

How are illegals registered to vote?? You have to be a CITIZEN

You sure would think so. But, no I guess those illegals polled by a Hispanic organization were lying because it doesn't fit your narrative... Read the article SiFi. 

KwMillennial --- 80 days ago -

Annnd my point is, was, even the majority of the legal ones who are eligible for citizenship, don't actually go through with it, only 42% do. So no illegals are gonna end up voting lol 

If 42% become citizens, don’t you think the politicians are pandering to that potential voting block? 

KwMillennial --- 80 days ago -

We already built a wall. It works. If it didn’t work, why do we continue to maintain it?

Why are there no bills pending to defund the maintenance of the current wall? It’s because the wall we built and maintain works.

It’s time to take something good and make it better. 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 80 days ago -

"If 42% become citizens, don’t you think the politicians are pandering to that potential voting block?


Yes I do bc its that way with everything in society including special interests and groups who all have preferred agendas.

I was speaking to the immediate issue of illegals coming over now. The ones involved now are unlikely to become citizens. It takes YEARS when they actually do. And Hispanics do so substantially less than other immigrants.

There are plenty of Hispanics here who CAN vote and it's a good size group so there is that, and I tend to think its this group of sympathizes who are the power block.

As far as what Dvaz said about fraudulent voting...I need to see some real data on how they actually can pull that off to the tune of a couple million people. At any rate, that would be our fault for allowing it, just like the non enforcement of immigration laws. 

KwMillennial --- 80 days ago -

Maybe I need to read more political blogs and watch more 24 hour news stations, but those who favor building a bigger and better wall don’t seem to be doing a good job of justifying it.

People who want to reduce human trafficking of children should favor a wall. Opposing a wall that fills that gaps and improves the weaknesses should mean those opponents favor human trafficking. Isn’t that the same strategy that worked when Democrats pushed through Obamacare many years ago? 

KwMillennial --- 80 days ago -

It takes YEARS when they actually do. And Hispanics do so substantially less than other immigrants.


Planting seeds for future gains would be a good political strategy.

Look how the Democrats are still using the issue of slavery and civil rights to their advantage even though Republicans passed civil rights legislation with more support than Democrats. The long game still pays dividends. 

DVaz --- 80 days ago -

SiFi apparently hasn't heard of stolen and fraudulent Social Security numbers 🙄 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 80 days ago -

Oh yes I have, but really, is there some big organized movement executing this now?? Idk, I'm just not to the point where I embrace these radical conspiracies.. 

DVaz --- 80 days ago -

How on Earth is anything I said radical? Because you don't believe it? 

SagaciousSighFiGurl (Mod) --- 80 days ago -

Bc it entails one more realization of the evil of humanity 

sdanielmcev --- 80 days ago -

How are illegals registered to vote?? You have to be a CITIZEN. 
No. You have to be able to show citizenship. Sorry if that's picky 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 80 days ago -

sdaniel, that would be correct. All it takes is a trip to a flea market, and a little money. 

OrdinaryGuy --- 80 days ago -

All it takes is a trip to a flea market, and a little money.

Not even that in CA. All you need is a drivers license, the last four number of your SSN and your birthday to register online. It would be very easy for an illegal alien to regiter to vote. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 80 days ago -

But first, you need an SSN-that's the trip to the flea market. 

sdanielmcev --- 80 days ago -

You know that why, ATD? 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 80 days ago -

I read it on the internet! LOL! 

OrdinaryGuy --- 80 days ago -

But first, you need an SSN-that's the trip to the flea market. 

You don't have to be a citizen to get a SSN. You don't even have to be in the US when you apply for one. Since CA only asks for the last four numbers of your SSN, how will they check? 

sdanielmcev --- 80 days ago -

I read it on the internet!

Harrumph!!! A likely story. 

Prolix Raconteur --- 75 days ago -

Weird. Israel and Hungary both put up border walls. Illegal crossings dropped by 95%. These illegal immigrants on this side of the pond must be real crafty LOL.. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 75 days ago -

Not all states require proof of citizenship to register to vote. They require that a person swear or affirm they are citizens. 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 73 days ago -

 

fuzz81 --- 73 days ago -

I read it on the internet! LOL

Facepalm. If you weren’t a biased bigot seeking out confirmation to feed your hate, you might think more critically and logically about the garbage you read on the internet. 

AwesomeTattooedDragon --- 73 days ago -

It must be time for your meds, you're starting to froth at the mouth, fuzzy! Wow, that was a mouthful! LOL 

Emperor of Kingwood --- 73 days ago -

Authorize the use of deadly force at the border. Bang, problem solved. 

I_won't_tell --- 72 days ago -

EoK - GREAT idea!

Make it 100% their choice .

But stack the deck in our favor.

If we want a real deterrent/defense system let's automate the border !!

Would need huge signs - making sure "they" understand what they are risking.

1st line of defense - green lazers that light them up at 100 yards ( day or night)

2nd line automated paintball weapons that fire at and hit them 50 yards

3rd line automated live rounds at 25 yards

It would then be their choice to risk it.

I bet there would not be too many taking the risk.


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