One of my friends on facebook posted a picture of a scad of dead fish on a shoreline and blamed it on Halliburton and fracking. They said the fish were dead because of a Halliburton fracking accident and that Halliburton did not have to disclose the chemicals they use in fracking.

Now, I don't work for Halliburton, but this if f'n stupid.

That same pic is used in end of the world claims everywhere.


and I know that Halliburton is absolutely responsible for the fracking chemicals they use. As are they all.


What is wrong with you liberals???

I am sorry, rant is over. 

I find people see things and bend them to their own needs. One reason why social network(s) create such havoc at times. 

So, are you upset bc all of the companies practices result in harming the environment and she made it sound like it was just them? 

Thats not what I'm hearing...... 

SiFi Fracking does NOT harm the environment. It is freaking sand and salt and sugar derivitives that has never hurt a fish on this earth, and harmless crap that keeps you and I from foreign oil dependence.
This is such a stupid concept. No, sifi, I have never worked for HES. I just hate it when crap like this is spread. 

SiFi Fracking does NOT harm the environment

Is there a scientist umong us that can verify fracking is not dangerous to the ecology of our food chain? 

Oh! I know nothing about fracking so I wasn't sure and that's why I was asking. Is this one of those things where both sides have evidence their side is right? Off to Google fracking! Lol 

probably not, Mark. They are to smart for KU. But you can find out for yourself if you care to. 

The media frequently presents Yoko Ono as a fracking expert. Not sure what her doctorate is in. 

This same picture was used in the "end of the world prophecy" "Fish are dying and there is no explanation"...the it was used to blame Halliburton for using hazardous chemicals used in fracking.

Which is it? 

While I think using a photobucket or stock pic from somewhere to accuse a company of something it did not directly do is disingenuous and false at best, I think we all know oil companies are responsible for harming sea life with oil spills and other things. 

I don't know why I am so pissed about this, except that I haven't been really mad in along time. maybe it is my venting time. (no I am WAY past pms)

But when smart people spread horrible propaganda without first checking the facts and knowing what is up, then I am totally upset. They could have asked me without being such a freaking (fracking, lol) tree hugger.

Thank you, KU for allowing me to vent. I feel better already. 

Did you challenge them on FB? I think you should. Ask them of proof where Haliburton did that and then post that same pic with the end time caption. Lol 

find out for yourself if you care to.
I believe fracking is responsible for wild life and range livestock has perished as a result of fracking. It is for that reason think fracking is not safe. 

SiFi You are right, they have been responsible. However, they have admitted they are wrong and done their damdest to fix it. Now, I am not saying that they would have owned up to it on their own. They are highly regulated and they have to admit it.

They are also sorry for it. They honestly don't want people to be hurt.

To say that an oil service company hurt fish in fracking is just totally wrong. Fracking is one of the slowest and most grueling processes there is in oil, and most people don't understand it. They are afraid of it. 

Mark, you think as good as you sing.

God Bless ya. 

Mulch, I found this, is this the incident??

"Over 70,000 Fish & Aquatic Creatures Killed by Pollution from Ohio Frack Well Fire
by DUANE NICHOLS on JULY 22, 2014
Evidence shows that frack well site fire polluted creek & killed fish and other creatures

From an Article by Casey Junkins, Wheeling Intelligencer, July 22, 2014

Article Photos: An EPA report states that about 70,000 fish and other aquatic life were found dead near the Statoil Eisenbarth well pad and Opossum Creek in Monroe County following the June 28 fire.

HANNIBAL ? Water samples of runoff taken shortly a June 28 fire at a Monroe County natural gas drilling site show the presence of many fracking chemicals and resulted in roughly 70,000 dead fish and other aquatic life.

Regulators counted roughly 70,000 dead fish, frogs, crayfish, salamanders and other aquatic after the accident at the Statoil Eisenbarth well pad. Environmental Protection Agency documents state tests show the presence of benzene, ethylbenzene, xylenes, toluene, and pyrene ? all chemicals commonly used during well fracking.

?It is a significant incident,? said, Bethany McCorkle, spokeswoman for the Ohio Department of Natural Resources, which oversees the permitting and spacing of natural gas wells in the Buckeye State. ?However, our investigation is not yet complete.?

?I went to the site myself to take some photos,? said Nathan Johnson, an attorney representing the Ohio Environmental Council. ?There are lots of dead bluegill, smallmouth bass and minnows. I couldn?t walk without stepping on a dead minnow.? The EPA report shows water readings in Opossum Creek have since returned to normal, while regulators found no pollution or dead fish in the Ohio River.

Upon reporting to the scene June 28, federal regulators reported numerous fires were observed across the well pad and a well head was observed releasing flowback water. The EPA report states Statoil hired international oilfield services giant Halliburton to drill and frack at the Eisenbarth pad.

McCorkle said Halliburton and Statoil promptly provided information regarding the chemicals on-site. ?We asked for the reports June 30 and got them June 30,? she said. McCorkle said the fire appeared to begin when a hose malfunctioned in the middle of a fracking job. The fire spread to a total of 20 trucks. She said no workers or residents reported injuries, but about 20 homes living near the well evacuated as a precautionary measure.

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Subject: Halliburton delayed releasing details on fracking chemicals after OH spill

A fracking company made federal and state agencies that oversee drinking-water safety wait days before it shared a list of toxic chemicals that spilled from a drilling site into a tributary of the Ohio River.

Although the spill following a fire on June 28 at the Statoil North America well pad in Monroe County stretched 5 miles along the creek and killed more than 70,000 fish and wildlife, state officials said they do not believe drinking water was affected.
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By the time federal and state EPA officials were given the full list, those chemicals likely flowed past towns along the Ohio River that draw in drinking water.
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Kirsten Henriksen, a spokeswoman for Statoil, said the company hired an outside toxicology firm to test both the creek and the Ohio River for toxic chemicals. None were found in the Ohio River, she said.

Isn?t that a typical O & G company approach that ? the company waits for their own toxicology reports to determine whether and when to report it? This may be or should be criminal behavior.

Reference: Article by Laura Arenschield, Columbus Dispatch, July 21, 2014 entitled:

?Halliburton delayed releasing details on fracking chemicals after Monroe County spill.? 

Not sure about killing fish, but fracking causes earthquakes according the the US Geological Society. That is enough for me to know it isn't a good thing. Wouldn't doubt it if they knowingly killed fish, too. 

Yes, that is probably the incident. But just like anything else, a lot of stuff is not dangerous until it catches fire, which is most unusual. Using it for propaganda against them is wrong. They are obligated, but being the machine they are is probably the reason for the delay.

Let me say again, I do not work for Halliburton and I do not endorse them in any way, but I think this stuff happens and to use it in the way it was used was wrong.

and I also think that fracking is the way to go.

Should I run for office?? lol

I also do not see this as a 

"You liberals?"

Are you kidding me? With "friends" like you, who needs enemies?

Perhaps you're just so mad because you know your claim that Fracking does NOT harm the environment is a lie, but you don't want to lump yourself in with us "liberals" and be seen as rational and intelligent.
Being you has worked so well up until this point, hasn't it?

Additionally, your claim that fracking has never hurt a fish on this earth isn't based on reality - seriously, are you medically OK right now? Do you need assistance? An adult? You seem more out of sorts than normal...is there anyone you can call to come and help you?

Anyway, a quick search of Google yields dozens of stories linking fracking and dead fish, including this one; you can find multiple non-blog stories about this situation in OH. Halliburton, no less.

Now, I am not screeching and saying fracking is excessively harmful overall, but what I am saying is that your claim that fracking doesn't harm the environment and has never killed a single fish on this planet is either a) an intentional, bold-faced lie, or
b) you are suffering a medical emergency and don't know what you're saying.

Which is it?

Not sure about killing fish, but fracking causes earthquakes according the the US Geological Society

Yep. 

Such anger, and bitterness. 

Such anger, and bitterness.

Good Lord,I can't even imagine being married to that.

Such anger ... 

I'm pretty sure we've had this argument before.

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Not sure about killing fish, but fracking causes earthquakes according the the US Geological Society. That is enough for me to know it isn't a good thing. Wouldn't doubt it if they knowingly killed fish, too.?

Link?

If no linky, then do some thinky. Let's say this ridiculous idea is true. If it's true, then are you suggesting drilling causes tectonic plates to release pressure and shift (since earthquakes are the effect of pressure between plates being released)? If that's true, then ask yourself if little earthquakes are better for society than bigger, more damaging earthquakes that would have otherwise occurred if pressure continued to build. If we agree that smaller, less damaging earthquakes are better than larger, more damaging earthquakes, then join me in celebrating this unique achievement that gives us fossil fuel AND minimizes the damage of future earthquakes.

Dick Cheney should be fellated for this. 

Jams, I think you went over the line there. Let's not go there, please. 

Pseudo-intellectual. 

As a self professed "liberal" I get offended when someone jumps immediately to conclusions that something is MY fault because I'm a "liberal". What utter horse residue. I'm not out to "take your guns away". I'm not FOR raising taxes. I'm not FOR taking from hard working Americans and giving your money to lazy reprobates. This is ALL manufactured hate and hostility and you need to wake up to that fact and start thinking. That's my rant. Have a nice day. 

Then you're not much of a liberal. 

Mark, you think as good as you sing.



And you chided me on my comment. 

Good Lord,I can't even imagine being married to that.

Such anger ...?

Think of it in the same way I do regarding the benefits hydraulic fracking gives us by minimizing the larger, more destructive earthquakes.

If there wasn't a Mr Jams releasing the pressure on his lovely bride's valves through his own form of fracking, how much worse would the anger be?

Mr. Jams deserves some gratitude, but for the record (and cut me some slack here), I'd rather fellate Dick Cheney. 

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! 

Maybe you could start a discussion about the topic without starting it off bashing "liberals" 

You do your share Fuzz.


Now, all of you- go to your rooms!!! 

Jams, I think you went over the line there. Let's not go there, please.?

Sorry SiFi, my apologies; I tend to forget that blatant lies are much more acceptable here than being called out on those lies.

It's that whole "personal responsibility" thing you conservatives are so passionate about.

Don't worry - it's not gone unnoticed that the content of my post, other than hurting someone's feelings, isn't being debated. I'm OK with that ;)

RedMulch provided wildly inaccurate information; you even questioned her on it - why is that OK with you? It shouldn't be.

Pseudo-intellectual.?

Better than being an anti-intellectual like you.

Warren, are you saying fracking has not and does not cause earthquakes, even small ones? What information do you possess that geological experts don't have?
Many experts (you can find your own links/articles - I know you can! You're a smart guy) agree that the process of fracking itself is probably not responsible for the quakes, but the disposal method of the fracking waste probably is.

I concede that it's necessary for some people to play word semantics -

"Fracking doesn't cause earthquakes!"

but they'll whisper

"Disposal of fluids does!" (but let's hope that doesn't get out to the general public!)

Bottom line - ANY changes to the earth's composition can result in quakes, be it the actual process of fracking or the disposal of said fluids.

Additionally, fracking has resulted in water contamination and "suspicious" other activities; the gas industry denies any wrongdoing, of course, although they have paid out millions in fines.

From TX to WV - there are many stories of lives and property being destroyed, and the common denominator is the natural gas industry. Are they ALL lying?

Good Lord,I can't even imagine being married to that.

LOL! No worries - the best part of my marriage is that it isn't with you.

My husband works in the g/o industry; there are many aspects of his career that I loathe, and many aspects that I respect. Lots of good and lots of bad things happen. 

Mr. Jams deserves some gratitude, but for the record (and cut me some slack here), I'd rather fellate Dick Cheney.?

You're so charming.

If only you would focus on the topic at hand, and not reduce everything to sex.

Perhaps if your own sex life was on point, you wouldn't have to worry about mine. 

Good Lord,I can't even imagine being married to that.

LOL! No worries - the best part of my marriage is that it isn't with you.

Ditto ... 

Double ditto.... 

I see you all have NOT gone to your rooms!!

Naughty, naughty. 

This is a jamming deal...

 

You're so charming.

Thank you, I've heard that all my life and it never gets old.

I also don't reduce things to sex. That's too negative for me. I elevate things to sex.

And for the record, the girls that say all guys ever think about is sex are usually those who only have that to offer.